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 5/10/2008 9:19 am |
Good for you Mark,I'm glad someone else thinks that as a solution is not the right thing to do.I too ama loyal democrat,that does'nt say that if a repug came up with a good plan or policy I would'nt support it,but what are the chances?My greatest prayer right now is that this american public realize the opportunity it has to start improving this nation and the world with better leaders,policies,and programs. I love it when you and Michael get on your soapboxes and refute all the negative crap that has been voiced here.most of it is just repeated repugnican propaganda. Huggs Ricky
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5/10/2008 9:20 am |
good one i've trained u well hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? or wuz it the other way 'round dunno sometymes but i do think there are two "explain"ations -i already covered one last week, so i won't go there again in 2000 McCain was able to establish faux credentials as an independent, maverick, moderate, middle of the road guy that just happened to be a Republican now, daily, we see that facade crumbling as Senator McKookoo's words and Senate deeds are seeing the light of day; but, and this is a big but, Obama has to put the pedal to the metal on Labor Day; because folks from New Hampshire to Indiana and from Oregon to Minnesota are still thinking McCain is the guy he falsely portrayed himself to be in 2000 100 years in iraq, land swap deals for big contributors, tax cuts for the wealthy - like his missus, on and on and on -- he is just Bush-3 and maybe a whole lot worse; "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran?" ZOMG HugZ, michael ps: this was nice, now could ya write sumpthin about toast - um, not the burnt bread thing, but the former emo-bottom-gai-boi that's got half a bachelor's degree under his belt? just beggin - 4 me and the rest of those that L* ya, K?
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 5/10/2008 11:30 am |
Mark, I am a Democrat through & through & will vote for that parties candidate. Jerry is also a staunch Democrat but will not vote for Obama...doesn't trust him. He [Jerry] used to say he'd vote for McCain before he'd vote for Obama. I have convinced him it'd be better not to vote at all than to give McCain an additional vote. When it comes time to vote, I think he'll make the right choice.  People are made to be loved And things are made to use But the confusion in the world is: People are being used And things are being loved Let's Change it today. Remember that a little love goes a long way... Remember that friendship is a wise investment, Life's treasures are people... ♥ Chat FOR Bloggers
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5/10/2008 11:49 am |
 Mark... you are the man! ~mike
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5/10/2008 11:56 am |
Mark. It baffles me too. "Grow up" strikes me as the operative phrase. David
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5/10/2008 12:03 pm |
Hi Mark, My response to your thoughtful posting is too long for here so I've written as a blog posting (along with a yummy pic lol). Here's the link... Yes Mark... this is American Idol!
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5/10/2008 12:25 pm |
LOL - Nice to have you back Mark. I don't get a vote in your upcoming elections, but I struggle understand how ANYONE can vote for right wing idealogs whether American or Canadian. XOXO Jack Take the road less travelled.
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5/10/2008 12:34 pm |
Sometime we end up voting for the lesser of two evils.
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5/10/2008 12:37 pm |
Mark, I am a registered Democrat, so I can post, right? Mrs. Clinton is arguing that less bright white people will abandon the Democrats for McCain. she and her husband, the disbarred attorney and admitted perjurer, have worked out a mantra that they think will keep dumb people within the Democratic Party. if she wishes to finish her campaign, there is no real harm in it. I thought she would quit yesterday, but as the spokesmodel for 'less educated' Americans, she feels she needs to fight on. electorally, we are a nation without any majority party. we haven't had a clear Presidential favorite since FDR or Ike. our differences are real, but they are neither fundamental nor unbridgeable. it isn't true that Republicans 'don't care' about health care or 'like' that people lack access to it. the key to Barack Obama is that he has escaped this box in which the Clintons live. when we adopt the thinking that only Democrats are sensitive and caring, we share lebensraum with Republicans who think that only they are moral and patriotic. as the Great Mandella turns, Mrs. Clinton will find a way out of the box she has inherited. we need a leader for all Americans and not just one to please 'less educated' white people. Mr. Obama has an opportunity to rally Republicans and centrists for solutions to the problems you cite. Mrs. Clinton's Stalinist shibboleths are useful for rallying her base, I suppose. but we have the problems that we have because they are real problems that defy simple solutions. we will get nowhere with this Jets vs. Sharks thing; that is Barack's message. I am personally grateful for all that you have done to promote Senator Obama's campaign. seeya, frank
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5/10/2008 12:58 pm |
Mark, How could any self-respecting Democrat vote for more Republicanism at the national level?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say that Hillary has said and done some things that make me FEEL like not voting for her, but I do have a brain, even though I do not think it is necessary in order to reason that Hillary would be much better than McCain. Why would anyone not trust Obama? I lived in Kenya with his father's people. All of the people I met there were fine people. They do not follow the Koran, as if that were a test of anything anyway. I have known Moslems, and I would trust those I have known further than some Christians I have known. However, Obama is a Christian I do trust. I have said "God damn America" when I protested against our Vietnam War. These words are to express our sadness and anger when our country falls so far short of what it could be. I still love the USA, because we can make it a much brighter beacon for justice and hope than it is now. The day Obama is elected, the USA will begin to shine more brightly! I have relatives in Europe on my wife's side and they are hoping for a better America. They hope Obama wins. Seems to me that if the rest of the world sees hope in Obama, we should be able to, also. Let us also not assume that it will be easy to win in NOvember. Let us all do something to get out the vote. --gordon
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5/10/2008 1:29 pm |
Hi again Mark, Aspreviously noted I've written a long reply to your posting in my blog today. I included a link from my posting to yours here and that link worked. So far the link from here to my reply post hasn't. Let's try it again... Yes Mark... this is American Idol! Cheers... 
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5/10/2008 1:36 pm |
i cant understand why someone would vote for the other party--it is not about people as much as it is about policies and party platforms==good for you that you pointed this out A warm smile and a soft look will turn away wrath even in the face of adversity. .. __________________________________________  Wear a smile today and you will have good success
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5/10/2008 2:58 pm |
Great post Mark. I just hope Obama can get us back on the right track. He has his work cut out for him! Hugs, Dave
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5/10/2008 3:34 pm |
mark as much as you hate Hillary Clinton I must say Hillary herself said if she is not the choice of the party she well support your man. 2nd the 8 years bill clinton was in office was 8 good years for the working class. I wont vote for John McCain but time well tell if telling people we need change well result in change. I dont much care for any of the 3 choices..........
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5/10/2008 3:45 pm |
Mark It is difficult to respond to such a good blog. You are so correct in everything you are saying...... I am an Obama supporter and much of that support comes from a gut feeling for the guy. Similar to what I felt for Robert Kennedy. Bill C did make us ALL a little wealthier but he did not do as much as he could of for the country while he was in office....was quick to fold them instead of bluffing except when it came to defining sex. Then he tried to bluff and blew all credibility he had ... I do wish that Hillary would step down and make peace with whatever issues she has (ie Bill) and allow nature to take its course with less damage to the party. Take care and hugs Larry
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5/10/2008 4:51 pm |
too sad... bigotry, lives. one step forward two steps back
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5/10/2008 6:04 pm |
YES! someone else that knows that the restof the party is what you are voting for, as well as that specific person. It's nice to see. Sometimes I think I know too much... 
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5/10/2008 9:14 pm |
Mark -- Cumon! Tell us what you reeeallly think! Stop beating around the Bush! LoL. On the topic of health insurance, I had to make a stop at the ER two weeks ago, spent a few hours being treated well. The bill came today. $11,500 + ER and Radiology physician bills yet to arrive. Fortunately I do have insurance. If I didn't I'd be like a lot of Americans who have health problems and no insurance -- bankrupt! Of course the Republicans care. They'd tell me where I could go to buy insurance. And then the folks selling it would tell me they are sorry but with my health situation, well, I just can't have insurance. Cuz they can't make it profitable to sell it to me if I'm going to go and get SICK! I'd LOL but it's more like ^PUKE!^
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5/10/2008 10:32 pm |
Hey Mark; As much as I agree with what you are saying here, I think you are beating a dead horse. If the people in this country can't have exactly what they want, they will do just the opposite of what makes sense so that they don't have to settle for second best. I voted in the last 7 Presidential elections. Every time, I've heard people who are for one of the two major parties say that if you vote for one of the other, (Independant, Green, Etc.), parties, you are actually voting for the "other" major party. (The one they are against.) Voting against the things a person believes in because the person they wanted to do those things wasn't there to vote for, is just plain stupid. I don't think this is the time for Hillary to be President either, but she's a far sight better than John McCain. Hell, I'd sooner vote for Ralph Nader than McCain. I hope you have better luck at waking people up than I've had so far. Something has to happen. I'm a long way from giving up, but it sure gets discouraging sometimes. For those who "will vote for McCain if Obama doesn't get the nomination", there is another option: It's called a WRITE IN. This is where you write down the name of someone you want for that office instead of the people who are on the ballot. Take care. Thanks for trying. Hugs; T "Can't means you won't try."
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5/11/2008 12:58 am |
Hey Toasty, loved the post!!  I'm very happy that it appears that Obama will secure the nomination. If by some chance Hillary would win, I would greet my teeth, and cast my vote for her in November. I know I told myself that I would never vote for Hillary Clinton, but John McCain has really showed his true colors. Did you hear were he called Cindy McCain a cunt? His own wife, a cunt, at a campaign rally? Is her mentally unstable? We, as the Democratic Part, can not allow our personal feelings get in te way of this one! We can not allow John McCain to win the White House. If that means voting for a cowardly, unfeeling woman, that I can not stand, then so be it. If I can put aside my feelings about Hillary to vote for her if she should win the nomination, then her supporters can put their feelings about Obama aside too!! As for the gay community, how dare they consider voting for McCain!!  Do they not care about over tuning The Defense of Marriage Act? Do they not care about doing away with Don't Ask, Don't Tell? Do they want to see an amendment to the U.S. Constitution banning Same Sex Marriage through out the entire United Sates, which if passed would include Massachusetts too?! Do they wish to see any inroads that have been made for gay equality, washed away like a gravel road in a flash flood?! I just don't understand it Toasty? I hope that all the Democrats will come to their senses, and rally behind the candidate, not matter who it is. If you want business as usual, government corruption, campaign finance fraud, and kick backs to the wealthy, vote for John McCain. If you want true equality, a level playing field, and change that hasn't been spoken of in this country since the days of John, and Bobby Kennedy, then please vote for Barrack Obama. Thanks for letting me rant along with you Toasty!! 
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5/11/2008 4:20 am |
Mark - I have a lot of respect for you and your thoughts. And your opinions. And it's because this is America that we can speak our minds (at least for now)that I offer this about Obama. I'll give Shillary equal time. This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books in his own words:Final sentence is the key... From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.' From Dreams of My Father: 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.' From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.' From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.' From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela.' From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' A vote is like a rifle its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. And now for Shrillary: Interesting: Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.) - Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn. - Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. - Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“Filegate”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. - In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. - Another of Hil lary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury ---- And Bill was impeached by the House. ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under oath). - Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint. - Hill ary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.) - As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume’. Sounds more like an organized crime family’s rap sheet. Mark, neither of these Dems is worthy of being leader of our Nation and neither is McCain. So where does that leave us?? With a dilemma as to who is the lesser of any evil. Our entire political process is a sham. The government should be purged from the top down. The rest of the world hates us and is laughing at us daily. They're trying to decide how they're going to deal with either a) a Racist black man; b)a corrupted female; or c) a geriatric veteran. Did not mean to rain on your blog Mark. Just wanted to let my thoughts out. With love & respect for you! ~Mike~
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5/11/2008 6:23 am |
Berit (Mike) thanks for your comment, but I can't let this one stand unanswered. You quote several lines from "Dreams From My Father". You have not read the book, have you? ALL of those statements you quote are Obama telling us about stages of his life and development. He is telling the story of an evolution of thought. He is telling the story of growing up half black and half white in America. He is telling the story that leads to understanding who he is today. Please READ the book before you take lines totally out of context from some right wing attack site and pass them on. You seem like a thoughtful person and Im sure you wouldn't do that if you understood how unfair it is. Now, your mis-quote from The Audacity of Hope. "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." Lets try for the full quote, ok? Seriously, its not hard to find. “In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Hmmm. That sounds a little different, doesnt it? I'll let some Hillary fan weigh in on the unfairness of the things you posted about her.
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5/11/2008 8:24 am |
The bold-red diatribe against Hilary can be found on right wing nut Blogs and the Rev Moon's Washington Times websites verbatim. Most of this comes word for word from Dick Morris's autobiographical "Rewriting History." Reno, in particular, is a much-hated icon for the right; in that they blame her for what they call the "Waco Massacre." I don't like Hillary - I think Bloggers, even you, know that; and, she really effed up that health care task force and did cost the Dems control of the Congress in the process; but, the women of the Clinton administration - recommended by Hillary or not - were a unique and talented bunch. Reno, Shalayla, Albright, Bader-Ginsburg were strong, experienced, opinionated females who stunned the 5,000-dollar suit wearing male political fraternity with their stridency. And, those gurls knew how to have fun. Almost weekly, they'd hire a limo and go out on the town in DC for a night of dinner, theatre, drinks, even dancing. And, hell, Janet Reno herself instigated her surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live whilst Dana Carvey was doing a skit about her. She loved his parodies and when she walked out unexpectedly in the same blue dress that Carvey was wearing? Priceless. Just Google any phrase in the Berit's comment on Hillary and you'll see the familiar laundry list of right-wing lies and the liars that tell them. Obama is a muslim. Da dat da da da. Cheers and HugZToMark, Michael
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5/11/2008 8:53 am |
Mark - I'll not let this degenerate into a political diatribe on your blog. I have read the books by Obama - I simply interpret them differently than you or many others it would seem. As for Hillary and that which I spoke about her. No right-wing lies. But I'm off the soap-box. Apologies for offending your sensitivities and those of your readers. I'll keep things to myself from here on...
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5/12/2008 11:32 am |
OK. So Bobby has resurrected himself and begun to post his pent-up political rantings and ravings in the Modern Maturity section of the Blogs. I've a weak stomach so I can only read portions before I head to the porcelain throne. Comment on them? I've better things to do with my hands, hehe. BUT, this comment appeared on his posting yesterday morning just as I was leaving for work. Good thing. I might have RELE blown a gasket. With nine of my ten toes standing on the gasket button last night, Simon pulled me back from the brink and suggested that I needed to relieve some of my stress in a more positive manner. I always do what "Simon Says," LMAO. For now, suffice it to say my mouse-gun has four bullets in its chamber and I am sooooooooooooo ready to CLICK and SHOOT, it's pathetic. Speaking of pathetic, here's the comment I found yesterday from paintedponies: "Obama's wife has a buck toothed mouth that could only appeal to another ass. At least Hillary let another be her husband's cock sucker. Obama is pussy whipped & it shows in the interviews with he & his wife. The USA needs someone with BALLS to lead this nation & Hillary has as big a set as I've seen. Burma Shave ♥" HugZ, Michael ps: i hope you are NOT running around West Virginia at the moment - that face and the sound of banjos playing is NOT something I want to imagine.
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5/12/2008 1:49 pm |
Well here's a (probably final) note on all this, sort of to-whom-it-may-concern. I come to OP to talk to the guys who inhabit THIS site. If all somebody is capable of posting is a cut-n-paste from some other site, ok thats fine. But dont expect me to be much impressed. And why should I bother to comment on your cut-n-past when Im actually commenting on somebody else's thoughts, not your own? Here's a new rule for my own blog. IF somebody wants to comment here and use a cut-n-paste from someplace else, okkidokki. BUT DO NOT pretend its your own thinking. Site the source you are using. And if you want to call somebody a "racist" and you back that up with a cut-n-paste from some right-wing site that fabricates quotes (as in-- "I will stand with the Muslims..." ) I will answer you, and I won't be gentle about it next time. The more I think about that the angrier I get. Michael some of the things Ive seen ppl say about Obama and Michelle make me angry, and some of the things Ive seen make me sad. It just makes me sad when someone I like proves to be very small. It really is possible to argue politics in a fair and civil way. But it seems to be a pretty rare skill doesnt it?
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5/12/2008 4:40 pm |
well Mark, you know where I stand and I stand there strongly in support of Obama, but if not he, then the Democrat. we need people that don't support only the rich and powerful. The repubs will tell you they are for free enterprise and smaller government. But that is not true, just look at their bills, they want the government big enough to help out businesses and only support the masses if that support will benefit them. It's ok to have corporate welfare, a large military to support both the industrial complex and also to support and defend their ventures and a tax base that allows them to build and keep their wealth. As an example, look at McCains's health plan. He plans to allow a $2500 tax rebate on a single person health plan and $5000 on a family health plan. Well that might help the insurance companies sell more policies and make more millions, but what about the other $3500 needed on the single plan and the $7000 on the family plan. Where does a person making $30,000 a year come up with over $500 after tax each month. and then there is this nice part of that plan, if you are covered by your employer, well that will be taxable after the first $2500/$5000 break. So 50 to 70 million middle class families will have an increase in taxes. Yes that's right, the additional part your employer covers above the $2500/$5000 is taxable income and so these people will have income of $3500 to $7000 each year. Think about that, a middle class family with full health insurance paid by their employer will now have to pay taxes on that additional $7000 or at a 15% rate, that would be a tax increase of $1050 or at a 28% rate, an increase of $1960. Mmmmmm so who is McCain base, well it's not the middle class working person, he wants to raise their taxes and give more to the insurance industry. and that's just one of his plans. The man is dangerous; continue the war, bomb-bomb-Iran, keep the Bush tax cuts for the rich, continue bankrupting this country and in the end destroy the lower and middle class to increase the riches for the rich. Yes America, it's time to change and there is Hope. And if you think about voting Republican, may God forgive you, because I won't. Peace and love to you Mark, Mike
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5/12/2008 4:46 pm |
Mark, You are so sexy when you are angry. If we ever meet, may I poke you? I applaud research but am not too keen on a cut and paste. A number of things about the latter can annoy me. I can get quite angry when the paste is put out of context. What really annoys me is when an "opinion" is added to the effect "this may or may not be my opinion". David
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5/12/2008 11:47 pm |
Hi Mark Mark.. Again, I had Davey read me this last night. Yep, work!! and a lot over the weekend.. I know how strong you feel about Obamah, and because of you, I started to listen to what he is saying.. I guess I feel just as strong about him as you do.. May the force be with him..and you too.. many hugssssZZZzz my friend Ray
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5/13/2008 8:56 am |
Forgive me, my wonderful friend . . . I'm becoming a Blog-hog - on your Blog, no less --------------------------------- This from CNN's Political Ticker, Just Minutes Ago . . . From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby (CNN) — James Carville has been one of Hillary Clinton's most energetic defenders, but on Monday he all but declared Barack Obama will become the Democratic nominee for president. Speaking to students at Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina, Carville argued Clinton should stay in through the final nominating contest in early June, but said the Democratic tide appears to be moving in Obama's direction. "I still hear some dogs barking," Carville said, according to The State newspaper. "I'm for Senator Clinton, but I think the great likelihood is that Obama will be the nominee." "As soon as I determine when that is, I'll send him a check," he added. ---------------------- Now, that's a REAL Democrat HugZ, Michael
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5/13/2008 5:56 pm |
well no matter what tune they sing before election day, it will change after he or she is in office. it always does. just please america no more from the bush family. they have caused enough bs in this land we call america, and abroad. like father, like sun. and i am a republican.... but that family makes me sick and want to change parties.
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5/15/2008 6:17 pm |
All respect to your idealism, but this is politics. There is no dirtier, or more knee-jerk, game. Hillary has a very strong constituency, and they are pissed that "her rightful place in history" is being taken away by an upstart. They are expressing their frustration. I don't like it, either, but I know that politics is a game where you hold your nose and vote for the lesser of the evils. I will vote for Obama, if it is inevitable, but he is not the candidate I would choose. Some day, Obama will do something in office, and you will realize he is a politician, too. Would you be so kind as to let us know where he REALLY stands on gay rights? His "spiritual advisers" are quite evil about that.
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5/15/2008 7:53 pm |
Hi Lloyd well first, I do know that Obama is a "politician." I know that he does some things for political reasons. He's been wearing a flag pin lately. Sigh. He supports gay rights and civil unions, but ducks the marriage issue saying "those laws should be made by the states". Sigh. He supports "sensible" gun control laws, but also finds that the 2nd Amendment grants an "individual right" to gun ownership. Sigh. Sigh sigh sigh and yeh, of course he's a politician. So was Abraham Lincoln. Man, I could write such a great attack ad--one of those "flip-flopper" ads--against old Abe on the subject of slavery. He said so many different things about it at different times and tailored to different audiences. Sigh. What a politician. BUT there is a CORE set of values to Sen Obama just as there was to Abraham Lincoln. Yeh, were both politicians. But they both had a set of fundamental principles that were non-negotiable. I have said that I admire Obama and respect him and like him. I never said he sits at the right hand of God. Oh sorry...I said the G word. If you seriously want to find out about those core values, read Dreams From My Father. If you did I bet you could find yourself voting for him without having to "hold your nose". And to correct the record, I think you are confusing "spiritual advisors" here. It is John McCain's favorite endorser the Rev. Hagey who is claiming God destroyed New Orleans as a punishment for homosexuality. Trinity (Obama's church) is very welcoming of gay members and even has a church sponsored gay "singles group." Ya gotta do ya homework, Lloyd. Um...sorry bout having to say the G word.
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5/17/2008 5:35 am |
You have nothing to be sorry for, whether genuinely sorry, or mock sorry. I know the deal when I visit your blog. We shall see how Obama performs if and when he gets in office. Anyone can and will say anything on the campaign trail.
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5/18/2008 10:48 am |
OMG. I just read your reply, Mark. I cannot believe this. You are telling me are going to elect a POLITICIAN as president?? Come ON... I mean, they don't to that in other countries do they!??
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5/18/2008 1:38 pm |
Hi Mark, I usually stay away from political posts as it would really hurt if someone I like said something mean to me because of my political viewpoint. Anyway, I'm going to give this a shot. I don't really understand why there has to be groups like Republicans and Democrats. I mean, at the end of the day, doesn't everyone want the same thing, a better country? Why can't everyone work together to make things better? It seems like the government is divided against itself sometimes. The following is not directed at any one politician, but at all of them. Wouldn't it better for us and them, if the candidates just told us what they really believe in and what they would do if elected even if some groups wouldn't like what they heard? I would rather have a politician tell me the truth about where they really stand on the issues, even if part of what they said wasn't something I liked. They could feel better about themselves since they would be able to say exactly what they stood for and we the people could make better decisions on who the right candidate is since we would have accurate information. I bet a lot of people that don't vote, would, if polticians would just tell the truth. For example, we had a governor (Weicker) in this state some years ago who as part of his campaign promised that he wouldn't implement a state income tax as that would be like pouring gasoline on the fires of the economy (he had a commercial that stated that). Then the guy gets elected and what does he do? He forces in a state income tax. 2 different plans were sent to him that didn't have a state income tax and he wouldn't sign them. He basically said that I'm not signing anything that doesn't have a state income tax. Politicians that outright lie like that to get elected should be removed from office. Perhaps it should even be considered a crime like perjury is. Anyway, please be gentle with me. Hugs, Mike
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5/19/2008 3:43 pm |
As much as I would like to comment on politics on this site, I find it very difficult and incongruous to comment seriously when staring at erect penises and nude bodies!!! I'll just vote come November. Peace
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5/20/2008 11:53 pm |
I agree with everyone.
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